J. S. Greenfield (greeny@nando.net) wrote: >The other two examples are notably different, in that a book entitled >"The Smith Barney Book" and a newspaper column entitled "The Smith >Barney Column" could _easily_ have Smith Barney as its source. >Therefore, we have potential for a likelihood of confusion, and >therefore potential for infringement. Don't you think that preventing people from having those titles is an infringement of their free speech rights? Especially in the newspaper case, or a free book (noncommercial). I do. And this has been the crux of my argument. Your argument that "the message could be gotten out" by other means doesn't change the fact that it still an infringement of free speech. Just like I said that most conversations can be carried out on the 'net without the word "fuck", preventing people from using it is still considered an infringement of their free speech in this medium. This is based on the way the word "fuck" is used currently on the 'net (and currently the way trademarks are used on the www). It's just that it has gotten to a point where stopping it causes harm. That fact that "fuck" might be trademarked by someone doesn't, and shouldn't, change things. I have tried to argue about this from a legal standpoint, where such a use could be considered as "accepted" by the legal system (without going into the issues of free speech). You and others have said it is wrong. It remains to be seen whether Lissack will lose in court though (he has changed his pages). But if it isn't accepted by the legal system (if you are right), then I think it's sad. --Ram me@ram.org || http://www.ram.org || http://www.twisted-helices.com/th Waiting for the revolution. Nuclear vision, genocide. Computerise god, it's the new religion. Program the brain, not the heart beat. ---Black Sabbath