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Greetings All agsail@aol.com wrote: >Hello Rathwig, >I said: > > >>To attribute to the totalitarian dictatorship that rules > Cuba with an iron hands the rights which accrue to the > citizens it keeps in bondage, is a travesty. It is like if > your house was >broken into by a group of thugs and you and > your loved ones were >kept prisoners, then, when faced with > those that want to free you >and your family, the thugs were > to claim your rights as the owner >of your house for > themselves. Lets get real here!<< > >Then you said: > > >>This has nothing to do with thugs or hime invasions, this > has to do with Law, and the rule of Law. Whether you like a > particular regime or not does not matter one iota when you > are discussing States inalienable right to sovereignity. > >Now I say: (This is getting complicated):) > >The point I made was that for a State to claim sovereignty it >must do so because it derives its rights from the freely given >consent of those it represents, and not from holding a gun to >their head. To do otherwise is to encourage a return to the law >of the jungle, and sow the seeds for future wars. The State is >not a piece of dirt, mountains, rivers etc, it is people. To >think otherwise, is only arrogance. > >Your analogy about the United States seem outdated, and not on >point. The revolution that took place in the United States was >one carried out to establish a system of government in which the >PEOPLE would have a right to "life liberty and the pursuit of >happiness", it recognized and affirmed that "people are endowed >by their creator with certain inalienable rights". These >concepts were latter enshrined in a constitution, that had as its >cornerstone a bill of rights to protect the individual. That is >not the situation in Cuba. I am not challenging the right of the >Cuban people to be free and sovereign, I am challenging the right >of a totalitarian dictator to claim for himself the rights that >accrue to those he controls by the use of the gun, the stick, the >jail, the mental wards, and the threat of exile. > >It is to inmaterial to me the reason why a country does that >which is morally right (and to punish those that would trade >and/or profit with property stolen by a thug is moral in my >book), I am satisfied that it does, and it escapes me the reason >why those that should know better as they enjoy of that which the >Cuban people are denied, are willing to participate in profiting >from their enslavement. > >As Henry Ward Beecher said, "A law is valuable not because it is >a law, but because there is right in it." > > >AGSAIL@AOL.COM You are making the assumption that the Republican (as in political system, not political party) government of the United States of America is the