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Hello Rathwig,
I said:
>>To attribute to the totalitarian dictatorship that rules
Cuba with an iron hands the rights which accrue to the
citizens it keeps in bondage, is a travesty. It is like if
your house was >broken into by a group of thugs and you and
your loved ones were >kept prisoners, then, when faced with
those that want to free you >and your family, the thugs were
to claim your rights as the owner >of your house for
themselves. Lets get real here!<<
Then you said:
>>This has nothing to do with thugs or hime invasions, this
has to do with Law, and the rule of Law. Whether you like a
particular regime or not does not matter one iota when you
are discussing States inalienable right to sovereignity.
Now I say: (This is getting complicated):)
The point I made was that for a State to claim sovereignty it
must do so because it derives its rights from the freely given
consent of those it represents, and not from holding a gun to
their head. To do otherwise is to encourage a return to the law
of the jungle, and sow the seeds for future wars. The State is
not a piece of dirt, mountains, rivers etc, it is people. To
think otherwise, is only arrogance.
Your analogy about the United States seem outdated, and not on
point. The revolution that took place in the United States was
one carried out to establish a system of government in which the
PEOPLE would have a right to "life liberty and the pursuit of
happiness", it recognized and affirmed that "people are endowed
by their creator with certain inalienable rights". These
concepts were latter enshrined in a constitution, that had as its
cornerstone a bill of rights to protect the individual. That is
not the situation in Cuba. I am not challenging the right of the
Cuban people to be free and sovereign, I am challenging the right
of a totalitarian dictator to claim for himself the rights that
accrue to those he controls by the use of the gun, the stick, the
jail, the mental wards, and the threat of exile.
It is to inmaterial to me the reason why a country does that
which is morally right (and to punish those that would trade
and/or profit with property stolen by a thug is moral in my
book), I am satisfied that it does, and it escapes me the reason
why those that should know better as they enjoy of that which the
Cuban people are denied, are willing to participate in profiting
from their enslavement.
As Henry Ward Beecher said, "A law is valuable not because it is
a law, but because there is right in it."
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